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here you are on the floor of the michigan legislature. let's hear what you said. >> there will be blood. there will be repercussions. we know that we've got a hundred represented folks intended to walk in saying i'm not going to pay dues anymore. >> there will be blood. what are we to take from that? there will be blood. was that a premonition? were you suspecting it would get this violent? >> the full seven-minute video kind of leads up to this point to state that this is one of the most important and divisive issues that the michigan house of representatives could have taken up. i personally do not condone violence. i do not -- >> what did you mean by blood? i'm sorry. just tell me that word. what came to mind for you? >> what came to mind for me is if you don't learn from history, you're bound to repeat the mistakes of history. and in the speech that i gave, i talked about the battle of the overpass. we know when we have two sides ferociously battling on the right to work, the right to unionize, the polar of cysts on this issue, what a
here you are on the floor of the michigan legislature. let's hear what you said. >> there will be blood. there will be repercussions. we know that we've got a hundred represented folks intended to walk in saying i'm not going to pay dues anymore. >> there will be blood. what are we to take from that? there will be blood. was that a premonition? were you suspecting it would get this violent? >> the full seven-minute video kind of leads up to this point to state that this is one...
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if you ask the people in michigan a year or two ago would michigan be right to work, said would never happen in our state but it is happening. as more states come right-to-work, isolated states have forced unionism and it will not work. i was making point, remember the famous incident about a year or two ago when boeing moved their facility out of washington state to south carolina and there was all this opposition to doing that. one of the reasons boeing moved to south carolina with that big plant, hundreds of workers was because south carolina is right-to-work state. bill: instead of washington where they were going to make the dreamliner, 787 is union. we saw the fight that ensued after that. after watching pictures in michigan, steve, if you're a politician, you have to have a strong spine to push this through. >> you do. bill: how many do? >> no doubt about it. no doubt about it. by the way i want to tip my hat to the people in the legislature in michigan who stood up to the kind of union thugs who were using violence as a way to prevent this. earlier on fox speaker of the house
if you ask the people in michigan a year or two ago would michigan be right to work, said would never happen in our state but it is happening. as more states come right-to-work, isolated states have forced unionism and it will not work. i was making point, remember the famous incident about a year or two ago when boeing moved their facility out of washington state to south carolina and there was all this opposition to doing that. one of the reasons boeing moved to south carolina with that big...
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michigan workers get up every day to literally build, grow and make michigan a fantastic state. they deserve much better respect than that. >> brian: there was a referendum on the ballot to make michigan a permanent union state. how did that go? >> it was overwhelmingly rejected by the voters of our state. it was an overreach and i think the voters spoke very clearly against putting that in our state constitution. >> brian: how do you defuse the anger, if the majority of people are in your camp on this, how do you defuse the anger before the 10 to 15 at least that are upset and the thousands of school teachers that didn't go to work on tuesday in protest? >> as we saw, again, much of those protesters were brought if from out of state. what i think we need to do is focus on michigan's workers. i think we need to focus now, the unions will remain free to make their case. but now michigan workers will become free to make their choice. and ultimately i think this is about opportunity. this is about new jobs and better careers for michigan workers. michigan's brightest days are in fr
michigan workers get up every day to literally build, grow and make michigan a fantastic state. they deserve much better respect than that. >> brian: there was a referendum on the ballot to make michigan a permanent union state. how did that go? >> it was overwhelmingly rejected by the voters of our state. it was an overreach and i think the voters spoke very clearly against putting that in our state constitution. >> brian: how do you defuse the anger, if the majority of...
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. >>> you saw what happened outside this -- violent protest ins michigan but it's what happened to the next guest in the deal. clint is a hot dog vendor hired by a group supporting the right to work law to serve famous hot dogs but when union protesters tore his tent down he came under attack and now the story is getting out. thousands of dollars are pouring into donations to make things right. clint, good to have you. what happened, clint? >> first of all, afp hired me to sell hot dogs and that's what i do. i've been doing it 16 years. >> americans for pro prosperity. >> yes. >> and i set up about 10:00 tuesday morning and by 10:30 i was ready to serve. i served my first hot dog about 10:30. shortly after that, people were coming in, everything was going just great. about 11:30, quarter to 12:00 two guys came in, one had like a devil's mask on and the other guy had a face mask on. so they came in and he took his mask off. i thought it was a joke or something. like they was clowning around. i gave them a hot dog, both ate their hot dogs and three minutes later they were turning over th
. >>> you saw what happened outside this -- violent protest ins michigan but it's what happened to the next guest in the deal. clint is a hot dog vendor hired by a group supporting the right to work law to serve famous hot dogs but when union protesters tore his tent down he came under attack and now the story is getting out. thousands of dollars are pouring into donations to make things right. clint, good to have you. what happened, clint? >> first of all, afp hired me to sell...
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i do believe that what they see abld what's happened in michigan with the passage of right to work, really the right to work for less. and now with forcing a very qualified and competent woman out of contention for secretary of state, it paints a pretty unfortunate picture for the republican party. >> ambassador and governor, thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you, reverend al. >> thank you very much. >> coming up, the far right's witch hunt against susan rice. what was it really all about? plus, breaking news at this moment. john boehner is meeting with president obama at the white house. we have new signs today that the gop's support is crumbling. and they called it the crime of the century. five young men convicted of a heinous assault in new york's central park. the only problem sfwh they didn't do it. >>> once a juvenile is broken down, you can basically tell him anything. and, you know, they fed me the names. >> my interview with the central park five, a powerful story of injustice and fighting for what's right. you're watching po ining "polit nation" on msnbc. [ male ann
i do believe that what they see abld what's happened in michigan with the passage of right to work, really the right to work for less. and now with forcing a very qualified and competent woman out of contention for secretary of state, it paints a pretty unfortunate picture for the republican party. >> ambassador and governor, thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you, reverend al. >> thank you very much. >> coming up, the far right's witch hunt against susan...
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mike rogers is the congressman from michigan, the chairman of the house intelligence committee. let's get your immediate reaction to the breaking news. what do you think about this, congressman? and ambassador rice was facing an uphill battle in the senate for any confirmation and i think it may have distracted from north korea and the issues going on there and chemical weapons and opposition that we don't fully understand. we have a growing al qaeda attack. when you look at all of the challenges that the secretary of state is going to face, this would have been distracting from those issues because i think there are a lot of senators who were concerned about her statements and her positions when it came to the benghazi aftermath. >> as chairman of the intelligence committee, are you confident you now know everything you need to know about what happened in benghazi? >> i think we're getting a better picture every day. we had another closed hearing to try to see days after benghazi and it's going to take some time to go through all of the information. i feel very strongly, wolf,
mike rogers is the congressman from michigan, the chairman of the house intelligence committee. let's get your immediate reaction to the breaking news. what do you think about this, congressman? and ambassador rice was facing an uphill battle in the senate for any confirmation and i think it may have distracted from north korea and the issues going on there and chemical weapons and opposition that we don't fully understand. we have a growing al qaeda attack. when you look at all of the...